In episode 4, Frankie interviews his co-host Ian Ginn. He shares his philosophy of treating others with respect and enjoying life while it lasts. He highlights Mea Thompson from theunconnected.org as an inspirational leader and discusses his educational background in European Business Studies. Ian reveals his passions as an arborist and the valuable lessons he has learnt along the way. He expresses his desire to master drawing and recounts a moment related to experiencing prejudice. 

This is part 1 of a 2 part episode so listen to the next episode to find out more about his views on innovation and AI.

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